sunscreen: BurnOut reformulations

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With thanks to the good “J” for the Public Service Announcement!

My current sunscreen is BurnOut’s Eco-Sensitive. I’ve been using it off an on—usually “on,” straying occasionally to try out other things—since summer 2010:

This sunscreen has been tweaked at least four times in the last four years; I have used three different versions (let’s call them 1.0, 1.1, and 1.2), and the most recent “update” is in the mail (as it’s a full redesign, let’s call it 2.0). Remains to be seen if the “update” is an “upgrade.” It includes an interesting new sunscreen-boosting ingredient, but it also includes stuff that might or might not be a bunch of junk included so as to be fashionable. The Viagra Paradigm strikes again.

The rest of BurnOut’s main sunscreen range has also been reformulated: that is, the Ocean Tested (also in the mail, now on version ≥3 and formulation 2.0 since I first used it; “E” reports that this reformulation dates back to August 2013) and the Kids (tried a previous version, didn’t like, don’t care enough to test it out again too. There are limits to this human guinea-pig. Interested in the stuff? Got kids? Over to you…).

Prices remain the same, $17.99 for a tube; 3 oz for Eco-Sensitive, 3.4 oz for the others.

Quick comment, for the company: it’s definitely time for a change in design on the packaging. I mean, I’ve seen better by small children and other non-professionals. See the image above: naff, naff, naff. The font, the form, the format of that front of the tube. To crown it all, you should be aware, O dear and best-beloved people at Sun Research LLC, of the fact that “BurnOut,” especially in that dread handwriting font, looks really like you’re telling people to “bum out.” Whether it’s an instruction to sally forth and moon people, or to throw away jobs and money and become beach bums, it could lead to embarrassment all round and lawsuits. You’ve used the imperative for eff’s sake.

I. BURNOUT ECO-SENSITIVE CLEAN & CLEAR

Changes observed between 1.0 (2010) and 1.2 (2013):

  • the tube shrank, from 3.4 to 3.0 oz
  • the SPF changed, from 30+ to 30
  • the texture changed, from veil-milk to slightly denser; still very light and fluid though. 3.0 is as thick as Ocean Tested 1.0
  • the type of ZnO changed; for the better, to the best of my knowledge

Ingredient-lists for 1.0 and for 2.0, with differences in bold:

INGREDIENTS 2010-13, including reformulations (but same ingredient-list for 1.0 – 1.2):
SPF 30
Active Ingredients: Zinc Oxide 18.6%
Other Ingredients: Aqua (Deionized Water), Capric/Caprylic Triglycerides, Vegetable Glycerin, Sorbitol, Imperata Cylindrical (Root) Extract, Caprylyl Glycol, Soybean Lecithin, Arabidopsis Extract, Plankton Extract, Aloe Vera, Vitamin C, Vitamin E, Citric Acid.

INGREDIENTS 2014 ( = 2.0):
SPF 35
Active Ingredient: Zinc Oxide 18.9%.
Other Ingredients: Caprylic/Capric Triglyceride, Water (Aqua), Glycerin, Polysorbate 60, Stearic Acid, Cetyl Alcohol, Sorbitan Stearate, Cetearyl Glucoside, Stearyl Alcohol, Polyhydroxystearic Acid, Polyglyceryl-3 Ricinoleate, Isostearic Acid, Lecithin, Phenoxyethanol, Xanthan Gum, Carrageenan, Helionori, Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Juice, Ascorbyl Palmitate, Tocopherol, Ethylhexylglycerin.

Differences in the 2014 version:

  • less water (assuming, of course, that the list is INCI-compliant)
  • the entire base has changed: may be fine for many-to-most people, but it now includes a number of ingredients that are problematic for skins with various sorts of acne, rosacea, seborrheic dermatitis, etc.
  • a higher percentage of zinc oxide
  • the addition of helionori, as a “UVA bioprotector
  • the SPF-boosting extracts have changed: still marine, but different species; carrageenan and helionori may have a higher probability of being problematic for acne-prones (red algae)
  • more and better preservatives

The differences are so substantial that, as you can see above, very few ingredients remain in common (and they’re basic things like water and zinc oxide); it makes one wonder why such a drastic change happened. There are many possible reasons, and many of these reasons may be good ones: ex. if the company is doing well, and they hire more (and better-qualified and more experienced and more expensive) staff, and redesign and remake the whole sunscreen from scratch. Back to the drawing-board and the lab.

This is a very recent reformulation: I had last been to the BurnOut website in mid-January to reorder (needing more, for two people going to a sunny place for a week in February). At that time, it was still the 2013 formulation on the site, and that was what I ordered and what arrived.

I placed a new order at the end of February (a little over a week ago), as supplies at home were running low. As I’m in Canada, that will take some time to arrive. C’est la vie. We shall see what it looks like when it arrives. It might be worse, it might be better. I don’t know and I won’t know until I see, feel, and properly test out the stuff. The current ingredient-list includes none of my own known triggers for irritation, but I know my skin has had issues in the past with too many coconut fatty acids and derivatives too high up a list. As I said, though, I don’t know any more than what is above: an ingredient-list.

Change is change. It is just change. That is all. Until any more is known about it, which involves more people being affected by the change and the passing of time: it is an unknown whether that change is for the better or for the worse, and it would be foolish to speculate further. That’s why I’m posting this here; I’ve got kind of annoyed at some of the coverage of this OMG FREAKOUT change on a certain discussion forum. For example (emphasis my own):

how do we feel about the reformulated Ocean Tested

And despite yours truly saying stuff like this

About complaints (board posts, reviews): note that many people using BurnOut and complaining are using a sunscreen intended for drier skin on the wrong–oilier, acne-prone, clog-prone–kind of skin, for which it’s not designed in the first place. Or they got confused and/or couldn’t read, so they ordered and used the wrong BurnOut sunscreen: mixing up the Ocean Tested with the Eco-Sensitive. Such complaints are unfair criticism.

Also, even that thicker pastier version is about a bazillion times better (and better formulated) than most “green” sunscreens, such as Badger and the umpteen greasy clown-face Badgerlikes out there.

I’ve ordered this 2014 reformulation. I have yet to use it as it has yet to arrive (same order as Eco-Sensitive) and will duly and dutifully report back.

That is the one that will be interesting to see, and to see how other users report back. It–unlike the Ocean Tested or Kids–*is* intended for, amongst others, skins of a more “sensitive” kind including intolerance, reactivity, being clog-prone, oiliness. Hopefully the MF won’t have messed up a good thing, but there is no way to tell until actual real live people start testing it out (properly, thoroughly, including side-by-side and split-face), observe the facts of the matter, and report back on their findings. Versus rumour, hearsay, and myth-mongering.

and this

[…] Like I said, I can’t comment further on this current version; I will of course dutifully report back once the stuff arrives and I’ve tested it out; and in the meantime, it would be fantastic if anyone who has actually
(a) used the new 2014 version (ingredient lists will tell you if it is this one or not)
AND
(b) has also used at least the 2013 one (and so is in a position to compare and judge properly)
could report back on observations and factual findings.

and this

[…] reading dates of original posting on reviews (like anything else online) is useful. And I hope people can understand how reviewers aren’t necessarily going to keep every review they write up to date; after all, a review is a review, and not an encyclopaedia entry. The fact that MUA is even remotely up-to-date is a miracle, given that we all do this stuff as charitable volunteers in our spare time for free, with no obligations, and it still manages to be one the biggest information resources in the world!

Will update on here and update review once I’ve actually seen, tested, and used the new versions. I’m also reserving judgement until I have. That seems to me to be wise…

But: my skin is drier and doesn’t have the oily/acne issues many of you will have with the ingredients. If the new versions include known triggers in the ingredients, my advice would be to avoid the stuff like the plague.

And I’d recommend doing what [J] did: write to BurnOut.

discussion includes, as one would expect, OMG comments by people who have not actually used the 2014 version. But but but: to be fair:

  1. It’s confusing, for many, as to which version they are using; previous versions had been tweaks, this one really is a new version.
  2. People have also been confused as to which version is which, as there is a habit of referring ambiguously to all or any of the three sunscreens as “BurnOut.”
  3. For many people, this is a big deal: some of us medically need to use sunscreen daily, some of us have skins that can only tolerate a fairly limited list of ingredients, and for those of us who fall in the intersection of these two sets, BurnOut has offered some of the few sunscreens we can use. It’s not like a favourite shade of lipstick.
    This is serious. So people get anxious and emotional. Human nature, y’know.
  4. Because holy grail

[Liff] Has the consistency of diaper rash ointment lol. I bought it right after the reformulation without realizing it, because I had read reviews about how it’s non-greasy with no white cast. I was seriously displeased with the MUA reviewers until I learned that it had been reformulated! It is thick and pasty so it feels greasy and it does leave a slight white cast. If you have used the vanicream sunscreen (which has the exact same texture as vanicream), Burnout is slightly less shiny but with a much whiter cast. I use it for outdoor sports since I don’t care what I look like but will not repurchase because it is so pasty that it is uncomfortable to sweat in.

ETA: I did not unintentionally buy this and give it an unfair review because my skin is too oily for it. My skin is combo, leaning towards dry. I bought this one because I was told that Eco Sensitive is drying. The formula is just so thick that it feels greasy to me even when my face is dry. I bought it in 2012 iirc so maybe that was actualy the second reformulation?

[Ginger] yes, that’s a previous version; what’s being discussed here = 2014 reformulation. HTH

But still, the silly rumour business. Putting sensible rational feminism, knowledge, and women’s reputation as upstanding members of homo sapiens back at least a generation. Hopefully there won’t be too much of that.

Lady Folly will I am sure be delighted if her cult continues to flourish. Let’s try our best to thwart her and support poor old Lady Reason, who has such a hard time these days…

Updated review on MUA:

Sunscreen -Unlisted Brand – BurnOut Eco-Sensitive Clean and Clear Sunscreen SPF 30  rated 5 of 5
gingerrama on 8/31/2010 5:00:00 PM

[UPDATE 2014-03: completely reformulated, not yet used this version, will update review once I have.]
[UPDATE 2013-04: tweaked at least 2 x since my original review; less fluid (not majorly IME and fine by me), now using a different, newer, better form of ZnO; change in declared SPF; and in a smaller, 3 oz tube. I’ve been using the Ocean Tested version in cold dry weather or when I need s/s to be water-/sweatproof; but this as regular everyday one.]
[ORIGINAL REVIEW 2010-08] A great sunscreen: all-physical, minimal ingredients, unfragranced, sensitive-skin-friendly, silicone-free, alcohol-free, and fairly (IME) waterproof & sweatproof. Thanks to Skincare Board for talking about this over the last few months, I might not have even heard about it otherwise.

Bonus: does all the “does what it says on the tin” stuff and looks good (on me anyway, and I am pale). I was a little worried about the plankton extract but have nothing negative to report on it.

Bonus #2: it’s cheap. About half the price of comparable zinc oxide-based sunscreens (and I don’t mean Badger and the like here: I mean functionally and cosmetically good ones; Dermaquest, Glycolix Elite, that sort of thing).

Bonus #3: ethical plus. Cruelty-free and environmentally-friendly.

Background: My regular sunscreens use ZnO & TiO2, preferably coated micronised, z-cote & t-cote. I can’t use cyclomethicone (alas, “no” to about a billion sunscreens, including all the lovely light veil ones), nor chemical filters; my skin is rather irritable and towards the drier end of the spectrum. I’ve rarely had an issue with ghost-face, that being my state of nature. My long-term favourite regulars for years have been Vanicream SPF 60 [edit: now SPF 50] and Blue Lizard Sensitive SPF 30 (body); I’ve also used BurnOut on parts that are very sensitive off the face, e.gg. back of the neck, backs of calves and knees.

On first contact, BurnOut is a lotion-fluid texture. Note that this is not as milky as the runny silicone-based superlight fluids (Clarins, Chanel, Sofina, various Japanese & Korean sunscreens); but it’s closer to them in texture than it is to thick pastes (Badger, Burt’s Bees, Lavera). No scent. Easy to smooth into skin so long as it’s moist; otherwise, as others below report, on dry-to-the-touch skin it streaks and doesn’t work in so well. My skin’s drier, so I’m using this with moisturiser underneath anyway: that was absolutely fine.

I also tested BurnOut on damp skin–just left damp from water–which was better than nothing, but not as good as the slip of a moist surface. A few other things that worked well as a layer between skin and sunscreen, and they’d be suggested for oilier folks or on oiler days (time of month etc.): hydrosol, serum, very light oil (mineral, safflower). Moral of the tale: not good on dry surface, slick it up a bit.

Fine around the eyes, though slightly dry: if it does run in, it’s not irritated me. Note that, again, I’m moisturising underneath. I usually use a sunscreen lipbalm around the eyes.

It dries fast. Squeeze out a line of sunscreen onto (if RHed) back of left hand or along its index finger, and using other hand, dot around the face, eyes, ears. Smooth in. You can actually rub a bit, gently… it’s a myth that one can’t massage physical sunscreens in at all. Just not too vigorously: more a case of smoothing around. The same kind of gentle motion and pressure as you might use around the eyes, but faster. Same again for neck and throat.

I don’t wear face makeup usually, and never wear foundation, so can’t comment much on that part of performance. I tested this out under some more MU, just to see: fine under concealer and blush. Fine on eyes under LM Eye Basics; no effect on tightlining and mascara.

Removal: oil pre-cleanse or cream cleanser/makeup remover followed by a regular face wash. Fine left on overnight and cleaned off the next morning.

No irritation. No clogging. No zits: and this stuff is very good at the zittier time of he month. And no burning, most important of all. Main functional ingredient: micronised zinc oxide, 18.6%. No parabens (in case that’s a worry for you) but does have preservatives.

Costs USD17.99 direct from the producers, great customer service, shipping internationally (inc. Canada & not stuck at the border for weeks). Available in some health-food / eco-stores in the US. Packaging: 3.4 fl oz/100ml recycled, recyclable plastic tube, stands on its head, flip-top cap. Sensible, practical. Use-by date printed on tube.

Resembles DermaQuest ZinClear SPF 30: identical actives, similar base-feel (from trying out a sample), but 1/5 of the price (vs. USD53.50 for 2 oz/60 ml, so $89 for 3.4 oz).

INGREDIENTS:
Active Ingredients: Zinc Oxide 18.6%
Other Ingredients: Aqua (Deionized Water), Capric/Capryllic Triglycerides, Vegetable Glycerin, Sorbitol, Imperata Cylindrica (Root) Extract, Caprylyl Glycol, Soybean Lecithin, Arabidopsis Extract, Plankton Extract, Aloe Vera, Vitamin C, Vitamin E, Citric Acid.

Comparison: DermaQuest Skin Therapy ZinClear SPF 30
Zinc Oxide 18.60%,
Water, Cyclomethicone, Glycerine, Glyceryl Stearate and PEG 100 Stearate, Sorbitol, Imperata Cylindrica Root Extract, Caprylyl Glycol, Sorbitan Stearate, Lecithin, Arabidopsis Extract, Plankton Extract, Xanthan Gum, Carbomer, Ascorbyl Palmitate (Vitamin C), Tocopheryl Acetate (Vitamin E), Citric Acid, Disodium EDTA

BurnOut Eco-Sensitive 2014 reformulation:
Active Ingredient: Zinc Oxide 18.9%.
Other Ingredients: Caprylic/Capric Triglyceride, Water (Aqua), Glycerin, Polysorbate 60, Stearic Acid, Cetyl Alcohol, Sorbitan Stearate, Cetearyl Glucoside, Stearyl Alcohol, Polyhydroxystearic Acid, Polyglyceryl-3 Ricinoleate, Isostearic Acid, Lecithin, Phenoxyethanol, Xanthan Gum, Carrageenan, Helionori, Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Juice, Ascorbyl Palmitate, Tocopherol, Ethylhexylglycerine

holy grail

II. BURNOUT OCEAN TESTED

I’ve also used this BurnOut sunscreen off and on for a while: especially if doing something where sunscreen needs to be waterproof, or moister. Used a lot in drier colder winter weather.

  • first tried when BurnOut sent me some by accident (2011-09)
  • started using it when my skin developed an intolerance of aloe vera, in winter 2011-12: I’d been using the Eco-Sensitive (which contained aloe vera) and changed to Ocean Tested both because it didn’t and because it was moister.
  • here’s a quick post on the tweaks made to OT in 2012-08

Changes observed between 1.0 (2010/11) and 1.1 / 1.2 (2013):

  • the SPF changed: it has been, variously, 30+ and 32
  • the type of ZnO used changed
  • the formula became thicker: the first version was only slightly thicker than Eco-Sensitive, very fluid; my most recent one (2013 which is either 1.1 or 1.2, I’m not honestly sure how much difference there was if any) is a lot thicker. It’s still perfectly usable, but nearly as thick as Vanicream and needs some serious rubbing in. I’ve been using it on body, when needing waterproof sunscreen. Note that the stuff is still nowhere near the Badger standard of clown-makeup thick pasty uselessness.

Ingredient-lists for both versions, with differences again in bold:

INGREDIENTS 2010-13 (1.0 etc):
SPF 30+
Active Ingredients: Zinc Oxide 18.6%
Other Ingredients: Aqua (Deionized Water), Capric/Capryllic Triglycerides, Vegetable Glycerin, Glyceryl Stearate SE, Sorbitol, Imperata Cylindrical (Root) Extract, Caprylyl Glycol, Virgin Hemp Seed Oil, Sorbitan Stearate, Arabidopsis Extract, Plankton Extract, Xanthan Gum, Ascorbyl Palmitate (Vitamin C).

INGREDIENTS 2013-14 (2.0):
SPF 30
Active Ingredients: Zinc Oxide (non-nano) 20%
Other Ingredients: Purified Water, Organic Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Juice*, Capric/ Caprylic Triglycerides, Sorbitan Stearate, Polyglyceryl-10 Laurate, Cetyl Dimethicone, Magnesium Sulfate, Organic Avocado Oil*, Virgin Hemp Seed Oil, Organic Cucumber Extract*, Organic Green Tea Extract*, Tocopherols, Organic Pomegranate Juice*, Helionori, Hyaluronic Acid, Ethylhexylglycerin, Hydrogenated Methyl Abiate, Polyaminopropyl Biguanide

Differences:

  • again, as with the other BurnOut sunscreens: more ZnO, changes in the SPF-boosters, more preservatives, and a very different base
  • the addition of aloe vera, avocado oil, and a bunch of antioxidant extracts (in low concentrations; it is unlikely that a minuscule percentage and dose of pomegranate juice will do very much…)
  • cetyl dimethicone will give more slip: I wonder if this and the aloe have been added to make this sunscreen more user-friendly, compared to the 2013 version? Can be cloggy though.

Same comments as before: this change has only just happened, more feedback will be needed before anyone is in a position to judge whether this is a positive or a negative change. I last ordered this in April 2013, so haven’t seen what happened to it between then and now. At the time that I reordered the Eco-Sensitive (end of February this year), I had seen (without looking at it very carefully, I admit) the Ocean Tested had been reformulated too (it was the avocado oil and hyaluronic acid that drew my attention), so I ordered some of that at the same time. We will see what it’s like.

UPDATE: The good “E” has bought and used the current version of Ocean Tested; she reports as follows:

I […] have the most recent release of OT based on the new ingredients that are now being used for OT. […]

It’s oilier than the (earlier) 2013 version, and takes much longer to set, left my face (combo-dry) looking very wet and pasty, but it’s nothing like Badger’s SS.

It remains a smooth formula, but too heavy for my face. YMMV! I like that it now has 20% zinc oxide, so it does make for a great body SS.

I was confused about the “2014” formula because I first became aware of the big change on the tubes in August 2013. I saw that the ingredients had been totally changed for OT, but still decided to order out of curiosity, and out of necessity for a SS. The first few days were decent, but after that, it wasn’t working so well. *My skin was VERY dry when I first started using it, then it settled back to being combo-dry, and it no longer wanted to work with OT.

The ingredients for the most current version of OT are exactly the same with the tubes I had ordered back in August of last year, as well as the tube I purchased back in November of last year, which is why I mentioned I wasn’t aware of a reformulation for 2014 since I see no difference, and I believe it was actually reformulated in the middle of last year.

I will write to BurnOut to ask for clarification, just to make sure!

Updated review on MUA:

Sunscreen -Unlisted Brand – BurnOut – Ocean Tested Physical Sunscreen SPF 30rated 5 of 5gingerrama on 4/18/2011 2:39:00 PM

UPDATE 2014-03: reformulated (yet again: 3rd time?), not yet tried the new version, will update review once I do
UPDATE 2013-04: been using this in drier colder weather, and when water~/sweatproofness is required. Otherwise main everyday s/s = BurnOut Eco-Sensitive.
UPDATE 2012-02: tested out properly swimming in the Pacific Ocean: superb. 6 lippies.

[Original 2011 review] BurnOut OT is one of the three all-physical sunscreens made by BurnOut (they also used to make a part-chemical one, now no more). The other two are the BurnOut Eco-Sensitive Clean and Clear SPF 32–my other main sunscreen, recommended for sensitive-skinned persons–and the Kids SPF30+. All three use zinc oxide as their filter and are unscented.

Main differences in fomulation (ingredients at end of review): Ocean Tested has hemp oil and glyceryl stearate SE, Kids has plantain leaf and papaya extracts, Eco-Sensitive has none of that but aloe vera, vitamin E, & citric acid.

Eco-Sensitive is oil-free but water-based. Not as waterproof as the other two. But easier to remove & has a nicer immediate skin-feel. On drier skin, it needs moisturizing underneath. I’ve often rolled into bed tired, not removed it, and not suffered for it at all. The downside: higher risk of running & rubbing off during the day; though I for one have never burned while wearing it. Good for everyday use (unless surfing is your day-job).

Ocean Tested has a stickier feel–that’s the waterproofy oiliness–but sinks in, feels, & looks velvety-matte, after a few more minutes than Eco-Sensitive. I’m using s/s over hydrator + moisturiser. If skin still feels sticky to the touch, try some sort of finishing powder on top. Pretty waterproof–tested out swimming–and needs proper removal. OT vs ES: OT if you’re drier, don’t mind cleaning it off at night properly, want solid protection through the day (without going for clown-face heavy sunscreen, covering yourself up completely, etc.), and into outdoor and/or aquatic activities.

Choosing between the two? The main difference would be your own wants and needs: practical stuff outlined above. Check ingredients for any known triggers (acne, irritation, rosacea, etc.), as ever. I prefer the Ocean Tested on face in drier colder times, as it’s moister. And it’s my usual body sunscreen in summer.

All the BurnOuts are in a different league from most of the “greener” sunscreen market. Up to mainstream standards (drugstore and indeed department-store and high-end). Not whitening. Other things to report: no immediate irritation and no burning, no zits

Cruelty-free, no silicones (I can use dimethicone but no other silicones, especially not the volatile ones, without irritation and minor clogging), environmentally-friendly, biodegradable, and actually actively designed for use in the ocean, without causing damage. Other viable alternatives for eco-friendly water-sports and so on: pretty much anything that’s got coated and/or micro zinc oxide. Further recommendations on ZnO-only sunscreens, see the zincsunscreens notepad.

Costs USD17.99 direct from the manufacturer. Available in some health-food / eco-stores in the US.

Another option: equally ZnO-based and green etc.: Eco Logical Face SPF 30+. Moister, but twice the price. Ingredients below for comparison. Eco Logical also have a Body s/s, same price as the BurnOut ones but moister. Both work as good eye-area sunscreens. But can be tricky to work with (streaking, pilling) & smell weird. Body has more oil & is waterproof (tested to Australian standards), thought not as w/p as BurnOut IME. Face is about as waterproof as BurnOut Eco-Sensitive. Worth bearing in mind depending on what you’re looking for in a sunscreen.

INGREDIENTS (Ocean Tested 2010-11 version):
Active Ingredients: Zinc Oxide 18.6%
Other Ingredients: Aqua (Deionized Water), Capric/Capryllic Triglycerides, Vegetable Glycerin, Glyceryl Stearate SE, Sorbitol, Imperata Cylindrical (Root) Extract, Caprylyl Glycol, Virgin Hemp Seed Oil, Sorbitan Stearate, Arabidopsis Extract, Plankton Extract, Xanthan Gum, Ascorbyl Palmitate (Vitamin C).

INGREDIENTS (Eco-Sensitive Clean & Clear 2010-11 version):
Active Ingredients: Zinc Oxide 18.6%
Other Ingredients: Aqua (Deionized Water), Capric/Capryllic Triglycerides, Vegetable Glycerin, Sorbitol, Imperata Cylindrical (Root) Extract, Caprylyl Glycol, Soybean Lecithin, Arabidopsis Extract, Plankton Extract, Aloe Vera, Vitamin C, Vitamin E, Citric Acid.

INGREDIENTS: Eco Logical Face
Active ingredient: Zinc Oxide 20%
Inactive ingredients: Purified Water (Aqua), Isoamyl Laurate, Capric/Caprylic Triglyceride, Sorbitan Stearate, Sucrose Cocoate, Caprylyl Glycol, Cetearyl Alcohol, Cetearyl Glucoside, Hydroxypropyl Starch Phosphate, Polyhydroxystearic Acid, Xanthan Gum, Cucumis Sativus (Cucumber) Seed Extract, Rosa Canina (Rosehip) Seed Oil, Camellia Sinensis (Green Tea) Extract.

INGREDIENTS: Eco Logical Body
Active ingredient: Zinc Oxide 22%
Inactive ingredients: Capric/Caprylic Triglyceride, Vitis Vinifera (Grape) Seed Oil, Silicon Dioxide, Cera Alba (Beeswax), Butyrospermum Parkii (Shea) Butter, Euphorbia Antisyphilitica (Candelilla) Wax, Polyhydroxystearic Acid, Simmondsia Chinensis (Jojoba), Cucumis Sativus (Cucumber) Seed Extract, Rosa Canina (Rosehip) Seed Oil, Camellia Sinensis

BURNOUT OCEAN TESTED 2014 version:
Active Ingredients: Zinc Oxide (non-nano) 20%
Other Ingredients: Purified Water, Organic Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Juice*, Capric/ Caprylic Triglycerides, Sorbitan Stearate, Polyglyceryl-10 Laurate, Cetyl Dimethicone, Magnesium Sulfate, Organic Avocado Oil*, Virgin Hemp Seed Oil, Organic Cucumber Extract*, Organic Green Tea Extract*, Tocopherols, Organic Pomegranate Juice*, Helionori, Hyaluronic Acid, Ethylhexylglycerin, Hydrogenated Methyl Abiate, Polyaminopropyl Biguanide.

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4 comments

  1. ns4487

    I am really interested to hear your thoughts on the new formula. I too have been following the threads on the reformulations on makeupalley and my initial reaction was to freak out as I have been using C&C for quite some time and enjoy using it. But when push comes to shove, I actually haven’t been able to as yet successfully identify my clog triggers – so I simply won’t know whether the new formulation works for me or not until I try it! No point in freaking out. I just hope that it still works well under makeup and that it doesn’t clog me any more than it already might be. I did the same freak out when my previous SS by Shiseido was reformulated, and I found C&C as a result. So fingers crossed, but worst come to worst, I’ll just be on the hunt again! Thanks for this posting, it was very clear and informative

  2. Eydie

    My daughter has severe food allergies, and I have been looking for a sunscreen that does not contain nut or seed oils which is a challenge. We used the burn out for ECO-Skin last summer without an issue. I called and emailed the company several times to verify that the ingredients have not changed and are safe for my daughter before I order more product. They have not returned my calls or answered my emails. Very unprofessional and it gives me a poor impression of the company.
    Very disappointed and I am now looking for wn alternative sunscreen.

    • gingerama

      Hi there–

      [Edited as written without reading your comment properly because I am a fool.]

      Some possible alternatives (check ingredient-lists and prices and so on, YMMV, etc. as ever):
      —Blue Lizard sensitive or baby SPF 30
      —EltaMD physical body SPF 47 (but more expensive)
      —Graham’s possibly? Coconut oil in there I think, check.
      —Hamilton (they have at least one that’s more or less identical to the Blue Lizard physical-only ones, may be easier to obtain in some countries ex. Australian and Ireland)
      —Vanicream

      —nut oils etc.: Alba Botanica, Babo Botanical, Derma E, Elemental Herbs, Goddess Garden, Green Beaver (but I for one would go for Blue Lizard over the lot of them anyway as cheaper and efficient), the livestrong / thinkbaby etc. ones
      —if coconut and palm oil derivatives are an issue–check this with your doctor, as they’re chemically very different from the oil in a state of nature–check with manufacturers if their ingredient list contains for example capric/caprylic triglycerides (there’s also lists online of coconut oil derivatives, mainly for the use of certain acne-prone people). A silicone base tends to avoid this issue.

      [Next bit is irrelevant–pertains to the wrong company, ECO logical.]

      I think they may have gone out of business. Their sunscreen is no longer stocked by any of my usual sources, and if you Google their name and add some date-limits in advanced search fields, there’s little about them online recently.

      Now, I haven’t looked into this seriously, but I suspect you’d find out more from investigating recent company take-overs, bankruptcies, etc. Maybe find individual director names and see what they’re doing now? I hope that’s a start for you. Sorry I can’t help more on this: I usually only do that kind of research on something I’m actively using myself, otherwise I’d spend my whole life online for free (and I have a job to do, and any external research should for professional reasons be freelance paid work; I’m doubly sorry as my rates are high…).

      [Ed. Next bit still stands.]

      Hope that helps!

    • gingerama

      Sorry, confused: ECO-logical has closed or something. Different company!

      BurnOut is still alive and kicking.

      The only sunscreen in their range which has NOT been reformulated to within an inch of its life (with aloe vera for example) is the KIDS one. It’s still the same ingredient-list as at least as afar back as 2011.

      The Eco-Sensitive has been reformulated severally. It is a major annoyance. I wrote to the company to complain and never got a response. I’m now not buying anything from them anymore, their disregard for customers and basic discourtesy sucks. Re. the reformulations: See various posts on this here blog plus more posts elsewhere, and much confusion and indignation and wrath on various skincare fora ex. MakeupAlley, Essential thingie, the skin reddits,…

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