- New addition to trollwatch: “eleoptene”
- And something between a playful LULZing troll and a crusading anti-troll: “recurringtrollouter”
- Images don’t link anywhere: those familiar with the source-site will recognize it; others probably won’t. All pseudonyms have been censored, except my own and those of trolls
Some material of interest for anyone out there being trolled / bullied online: have a look at the bully-trolls’ strategies, especially their perverse use of terms like “bully” against the very people they themselves are attacking. No, that’s not “irony”: it’s malicious, destructive nastiness.
Look also at what trolls accuse others of, and how:
in each case, it is
(a) precisely what they themselves are doing:
- unsolicited lectures
(b) the exact opposite of what the non-troll is doing, including taking some of their key characteristics and stating their contrary: this is a classic way of trying to poke, goad, and rile someone into anger, and thence to writing something that would break a discussion-board rules and result in the non-troll being driven off the board… apparently by their own actions:
- assumptions / opinions as fact
- reading comprehension skills
(c) a twisted interpretation: portraying things that are actually good, as being bad; so as to undermine a non-troll (others’ perception of them, and their reputation and worth; also their own perception of self, self-confidence, perception of reality, and sanity itself):
Conclusions, if you fall for this sort of foolish trollery:
- Telling the truth = bullying
- Stating a fact = bullying
- Producing a consistent argument = bullying
- Doing so in an honest, straight-forward, direct way = bullying
- Knowing more than someone else and saying what you know (rather than hiding it and yourself) = bullying
- Writing at length, properly and well, intelligently, and usefully (with the intention of persuading others) = bad
- Having something to say, having some life-experience, knowing stuff = bad
- Being smart = bad
- Wanting to communicate stuff to people, share what you know, reach out and help them, wanting to help them = bad
- Anything that you do that is good, any good in you, being good = bad
All of which is nicely put in this later addition to the discussion (which doesn’t appear below: not redoing screenshots every time…):
chl******** 12/13/2013 3:24PM
Ethics are great unless they are personal opinions covered in self righteousness and called “ethics” in order to excuse self- superior motives. Mean-spiritedness and snarkyness is not part of ethical behavior.
Fair enough for someone who started a thread to have the last word… and a neatly ambivalent one at that!
Therefore: forewarned is forearmed. Do not fall for trolls. Do not let them hurt you. Do not play their game. Do not play games: shift what they turned from discussion to troll-games, back to intelligent discussion amongst people. And publicly shame them.
- other posts on here about trolls and trolling, and about ethics, and netiquette (see categories)
- “troll-spotting (3)”, a post from a couple of years ago with discussion of “tall poppy syndrome”
- and this last summer’s “hauls” post (2013-07-24)
- Go Portlandianism and GO VAN!
Or: a nice example in action here below of the distinction between Northern and Southern West Coast spirit.
= Pacific Northwest (plus cooler damper weather; cooler and darker overall) vs. SoCal.
= Ethics, humanism, and socialism vs. New Age selfish silliness.
- Ethics vs. affluenza
Couple of updates:
Last word on responsible enjoyment to the Canadian authorities: