PART ONE (OF THREE)
No further comment, and I did not comment or otherwise contribute to the discussion below. It was clearly a lost cause, insofar as the serious material content was concerned. The non-serious teeters on an uncomfortable edge, given the limitations of the principal troll here. Screenshots aren’t linked to anything, just the images. Those who recognize the format (and perhaps, indeed, pseudonyms) will know where this came from. Others should be able to figure it out for themselves from previous posts.
From a week ago: to allow some critical distance. Main reasons for posting:
2. Observation of assorted trolling styles
3. A nice example of the limits of reasoning, that is, when confronted with human limitations / limited humans
4. Open question: what are the limits to tolerance, and to suffering fools?
5. And another one: humour’s limits?
Where do you draw the line, when dealing with someone who says things that are foolish and ignorant (who knows, the person saying them may be a troll, and not in fact an ignorant fool), but who also expresses paranoia? Convinced about conspiracy theories. Cultish. Led by blind belief (not reason, or intuition, or other forms of active thought).
Bearing in mind at the same time
(a) that these words may be by a troll, who has created an online fiction;
(b) and that this is an individual who sells her own beauty products, regularly shills, does not accept or comprehend that this is against the rules on this particular online forum, and therefore: is a troll;
Bearing these two other factors in mind: this persona’s utterances could be sincere simplicity. Genuine. Honest. And just plain stupid. Yes, a fact’s a fact: people’s brains vary, as do their levels of assorted kinds and expressions of intelligence. Some people are stupid. Some people might not be stupid, but they say stupid things from time to time. Some people say stupid things all the time. Some people say stuff when Under The Influence that they wouldn’t usually say; IQ and reactions are impeded by alcohol–on the other hand, in vino veritas. And some people, regardless of their smartness, lack emotional and / or social intelligence.
There could also be mental health and well-being issues (given the paranoia).
Whatever is going on here, or whatever combination of factors: as my granny always said, “One should not mock the afflicted.”
(All those things having been said: sometimes things are also still funny. That’s another of these things some of like to think of as and call “facts”: in this case, a fact about what makes people laugh, and why, and how, and what’s going on in and behind that reaction of laughing.)
Questions 4 and 5 and that last paragraph were basically why I didn’t comment. As my only comments would have been these, meta-comments, and thus technically “off topic” according to this discussion forum’s rules. Therefore: not to be posted there. I like rules, especially sensible ones and ones that are good for people; that help and protect and nurture and benefit them. That includes shutting people like me up when they need to be shut up: it’s good for me.
Oops, famous last words, once again, on “no comment.” Following on from that last comment on my shutting up: over and out from me.
And lo: as ever, as soon as I take screenshots, everything changes. And then I have to take screenshots all over again. The life of an archivist is not an easy one. I had a meander back, thinking to myself that this might be the sort of thread that got a bit over-excited and exciting, and might be worth following. In the squeamish surreptitious way one discreetly follows reality T.V., and hates oneself for doing so.
In this third and I hope final part: twists in the tale, blurrings of the border between fiction and reality, and then bam: the whole discussion-thread was Disappeared, some point before 11:00 a.m. Pacific Coast time. Given that I’ve been all prim and proper and discreet about not naming sources or linking to URLs, and have cropped screenshots, you may well be wondering: did she make it all up?
I wonder much the same thing myself, about much that is on the discussion forum in question. I often feel like I’ve walked into a parallel universe or a fictional world, over there.
Add to that the fact that fact is stranger than fiction. You couldn’t make this up. I couldn’t, anyway: which might answer anyone wondering if I did. Sorry, I didn’t: I’m just not that good a writer.
Life’s too short. Other better more useful stuff to do. Reconciliation to get on with and suchlike.
FFS: first world effing problems online.
On the other hand, part of truth and reconciliation is that truth part: ensuring that all stories are told, from all points of view, by all concerned. Recorded and preserved. That history be properly written, as histories: plural. Not as one single history, that is, the story of the victor. And stories may each have elements of truth, or they may all be true, even if contradictory. That’s a human fact, and very human, and marvellous. Often also a marvel.
In this case, the “true history” of the victor, the powers behind this discussion forum? Erasure. Didn’t happen.
UPDATE: famous last words again… I have censored out parts of some screenshots, further to a request to do so, as they are now the subject of moderator / administration action against the party/ies concerned. This is in deference to nice people. And I don’t mind, as the bits whited out weren’t really germane to the main argument. If anything, they were irrelevant tangents to the main points of discussion and Points To Ponder: trolling, tolerance, and the limits to them and to online discussion.
That grand finale:
Skinsperiments, hairsperiments, reviews: a promise or a threat? or just a reminder “note to self?” Only time will tell…
- Silk Naturals Sleep in a Jar concealer
→ DONE: 2013-07-16, reviews: concealer
- Ballyhoo Bath Fragrance-Free Solid Shampoo and Conditioner Bars (c/o Etsy)
→ DONE: 2013-07-31, reviews: Ballyhoo Bath hair stuff
- Chagrin Valley, my usual deodorant: not a product review as such (been using for years and reviewed earlier), but a thumbs up on their new more-sensitive-friendly labelling aesthetics
→ DONE: 2013-08-14, Chagrin Valley deodorant & packaging updates
- Vitamin C serums: Isomers Vitamin C + E High Potency Antioxidant Serum and Silk Naturals Awesome Sauce (vitamin C & other antioxidant) Serum
→ meh, will probably not post on this fully. Quick version:
—the Isomers serum was unusable on face due to irritation-zits in the chin, mouth, and nose area. I blame flax-seed oil, a known problem ingredient on my skin. I used it up on arms and legs. Felt nice, smooth, moisturising, non-drying. Without being gloopy or gluey. Sank in fast.
—Awesome Sauce is probably the moistest SN serum I’ve used. On face, I still prefer my combination of Garden of Wisdom Natural Majik Green Tea serum and their Matcha Hyaluronic Acid one. It’s hydrting and soothing on me; the SN one, not as much, and I have neither the time nor the inclination to bugger around with *three* serums. FFS. This, too is being used up on exposed limbs, as well as non-exposed skin (necl, shoulders, upper arms, ears) that may be coverdd up during the day but is directly under the sun.
CONCLUSION: happy withe the Garden of Wisdom stuff, providing as it does: green tea, caffeine, oat extract, and hyaluronic acid.
- Silk Naturals (plain, unscented/unflavoured) Naked Organic Lip Balm
- Sunscreens revisited: what the current ones are, where, how, and why. At least as exciting as your average (TV) soap.
Still no news to report. Still using the same damn stuff. The same boring plain simple damn stuff.
But, for a blog the writing of which seeks to help its blogueuse emancipate herself from consumerism and disposable pseudo-culture, that’s surely not such a bad thing.
In other news, though, I have gone forth and spent some money on stuff to test / retest. I haven’t actually received or used them yet, though, hence the statements above aren’t technically exaggerations or, as Mrs T put it, being economical with the truth. If the testing proves exciting in any way, there will be reports back. If you’re very lucky and there are fabulous skin reactions, I promise to try to remember to take photos. Would be a shame and mean-spirited not to. Everyone loves a good gorefest picture.
On a slightly-related-if-denuded-to-the-point-of-being-flayed-of-flesh note, and looking forward to darker loamier cooler times of year if a summer of tediously constant warmth and sunshine is getting you down, over to Figure 1: Noir from Roxana Illuminated Perfume:
2. Sorry, didn’t even look at Ye Blogge or MakeupAlley at all, ever!!! since the end of May.
3. I didn’t actually think about either Praise Of Folly or MUA for hours at a time and then days in a row. Now, I’m not going to claim that feels good, virtuous, victorious; though it sure must look like a triumph over the OCD journaling of minutiae that both these activities, let’s face it, really are. In their deep inner nature. Which happens to coincide with superficial appearances, to the innocent / ignorant outside observer.
4. But I was doing other things that kept me busy. So it wasn’t really a deliberate thing, with intent; nor was it a great labour, with trials and tribulations, and deserving of high praise. Nope. Just doing other stuff, in other places.
In previous years, I’ve put together Green-ish Lists. Laboriously hand-crafted. By my own fair hand. Researched and all and all.
But here’s a thing. Or a couple of things, really.
Such lists might entice or incite
someone, somewhere people to buy stuff. Amongst that stuff there might be stuff they don’t need. And stuff of which they already have a version or equivalent, albeit maybe less green or green-ish.
So this year, in a break with tradition, there will be no list.
Earth Day should be every day damn it!
And part of normal everyday life for everybody!!!
I mean, this tosh about making a big ritual/~ised/~istic deal of planting one single tree in some random and probably irrelevant place? Fuck’s sake, if you’re that keen on planting trees, get thee to the Amazon and start beating up the bulldozers. Pillocks.
OK, there might be a list, at some point in the future. But there’s a sound practical reason for no list: cruelty-free-ness is up in the air.
Following the cosmetic-testing ban in the EU, it will be some time before every single product on the shelf and in warehouses is new cruelty-free stock. And even longer before we start seeing which companies put their money where their mouth is, on research & development. I.e., if you’ll allow me to belabour a grammatical point, I’m waiting to see a “cosmetic testing ban” become a “cosmetic-testing ban.”
For testing to be seriously well-funded non-animal alternative testing, of a sort that becomes not only acceptable worldwide (inc. places like the USA and its bizarre antiquated insistence on animal testing)—rather than freakish and marginal—but normal and standard.
Add to that the whole “who’s doing what in China” complications.
So: no list. Well, no list of “good” and “bad” companies. Just a rough list of Points To Ponder.
THE 2013 ALTERNATIVE GREEN LIST Continue reading
Hoping all from/in Boston, and those you know, are OK (((hugs)))
Thinking of my friend Hélène / Icaria, in difficult times.
2.i) “Best all-natural skincare?“
→ I can’t and wouldn’t recommend a single line for everything, same as for “unnatural” stuff++
SERIOUS DIRE WARNINGS Continue reading
I’ve responded to some comments (really good and useful ones) from Curelle, in response to a post of ah um errrrm about a year ago. Otherwise no further stuff on here till return from VACATION and doubtless further delay once the backlog of work stuff gets dealt with, with a shovel. Or pick-axe. Or bulldozer or worse.
On which happy thought, which I’m ON VACATION to avoid, recover from, and brace and energize self for future dealing with: BACK TO VACATION.
Over and out.